polygon
Game Owner
 NWN
NWN: SoU
NWN: HotU
NWN 2
Joined: 19 Jun 2002 |
 Posted: Wednesday, 04 October 2006 02:12PM |
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I found out today that NWN2 was going to impliment secuROM again. I don't know why I was even surprised, to tell ya the truth. Instead of coming here to post anything about it, I marched straight to Atari's website, and submitted a very convincing argument for removing SecuROM.
Anyone that would like to be able to store their CD's in a safe place, head on over and post your cents worth... |
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GahloWake
Game Owner
 NWN
NWN: SoU
NWN: HotU
NWN 2
Joined: 07 Mar 2006 |
Posted: Wednesday, 04 October 2006 02:18PM |
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Why are you asking for this? Forgive my ignorance, but as far as I know all SecuROM does is stop letting people who didn't actually pay for the game play it. |
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Dalreece Khaine
Game Owner
 NWN
NWN: SoU
NWN: HotU
SW: KotOR PC
Jade Empire:SE
NWN 2
Mass Effect
Joined: 14 Jul 2002
From: UK |
Posted: Wednesday, 04 October 2006 02:20PM |
They'll stick securom on it, we'll live with it for a little while, then hopefully Obsidian will follow Bioware's approach and patch it out.
I've got to admit that it's REALLY nice to be able to play NWN1 without the DVD in the drive now though. I just wish they'd realise that the only people who are remotely inconvienienced by "security technologies" like securom are their legitmate customers. |
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taezou
Game Owner
 NWN
NWN 2
Joined: 01 Jul 2002 |
Posted: Wednesday, 04 October 2006 02:21PM |
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I don't know much about SecuROM, but at least it's not StarForce. I have actually had trouble playing a game I purchased legitimately (Prince of Persia 3) because of it. |
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Deepsong
Game Owner
 NWN 2
Joined: 01 Oct 2006 |
Posted: Wednesday, 04 October 2006 02:22PM |
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The problem with SecuROM and other copy protection is that it will stop legitimate users play the game or use the software due to their hardware and software configuration which the only recourse to get the game they bought to work properly is to get a crack. |
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Dakota Strider
Game Owner
 NWN
NWN: SoU
NWN: HotU
NWN 2
Joined: 09 Apr 2003
From: Omaha, Nebraska |
Posted: Wednesday, 04 October 2006 02:29PM |
SecuROM prevented me from playing Temple of Elemental Evil. It would not recognize the original disc and would not load the game. So far, this is the worse thing I have heard about NWN2. Nothing could be worse than getting home with my brand new game of NWN2, taking however long it takes to install it, then find out that the incription won't allow me to play it.
I am sure there are many people much more technologically savvy than myself, that could figure out there way around the SecuROM to play the game. And as mentioned, they would be the ones most likely to be possessing the game illegally. So it seems ridiculous that ATARI would put an obstacle in the way of its legitimate customers to enjoy the game.
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Tal Rasha
Game Owner
 NWN
NWN: SoU
NWN: HotU
NWN 2
Joined: 18 Oct 2001
From: The secret cow level |
Posted: Wednesday, 04 October 2006 02:31PM |
Quote: Posted 10/04/06 14:18:09 (GMT) by GahloWake
Why are you asking for this? Forgive my ignorance, but as far as I know all SecuROM does is stop letting people who didn't actually pay for the game play it.
You don't actually believe that, now do you.
People who are into the illegal stuff already know ways around it, while people who are not might be disappointed if their sup par dvd player won't read the disc.
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dunniteowl
Moderator
Joined: 12 Sep 2005
From: Bastrop, TX |
Posted: Wednesday, 04 October 2006 02:31PM |
I am going to be keeping my eye on this one, so let's make sure we talk about the subject and not descend into an Atari (Publisher) hate fest for SecurROM, okay?
I was going to just lock this with a redirect, however I am not. I am still contemplating such a move and will do so if any posts violate our Rules of Conduct *(see my sig for a link to them-- or the very bottom of every page in these forums for that matter.)
Here is what I feel is a more appropriate link from which to navigate to a thread area to post such discussions, however: Atari, Inc.
Post on and recognize it is under scrutiny. Read the Rules of Conduct and be aware that this particular topic will have a Zero Tolerance Policy with regard to them.
Other than that, have a nice day.
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Deepsong
Game Owner
NWN 2
Joined: 01 Oct 2006 |
Posted: Wednesday, 04 October 2006 02:36PM |
Its hard to hate a company who's aim is to protect their investment but I do disagree with the use of protection schemes as secuROM but it won't stop me from enjoying the game. 
At least its not Starforce. I won't even touch a game using that protection scheme. |
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Avendesora84
Game Owner
 NWN
NWN: SoU
NWN: HotU
NWN 2
Joined: 11 Jul 2004
From: Essex, England |
Posted: Wednesday, 04 October 2006 02:39PM |
Eh, why does this post have a dev post sign next to it?
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Dalreece Khaine
Game Owner
NWN
NWN: SoU
NWN: HotU
SW: KotOR PC
Jade Empire:SE
NWN 2
Mass Effect
Joined: 14 Jul 2002
From: UK |
Posted: Wednesday, 04 October 2006 02:41PM |
I'm willing to live with secuROM if Obsidian promise to patch it out after it becomes massively counter-productive.
(i.e. Once it has -once again- demonstrably failed to reduce piracy) |
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polygon
Game Owner
NWN
NWN: SoU
NWN: HotU
NWN 2
Joined: 19 Jun 2002 |
Posted: Wednesday, 04 October 2006 02:42PM |
Quote: Posted 10/04/06 14:31:28 (GMT) by dunniteowl I am going to be keeping my eye on this one, so let's make sure we talk about the subject and not descend into an Atari (Publisher) hate fest for SecurROM, okay? I was going to just lock this with a redirect, however I am not. I am still contemplating such a move and will do so if any posts violate our Rules of Conduct *(see my sig for a link to them-- or the very bottom of every page in these forums for that matter.) Here is what I feel is a more appropriate link from which to navigate to a thread area to post such discussions, however: Atari, Inc.Post on and recognize it is under scrutiny. Read the Rules of Conduct and be aware that this particular topic will have a Zero Tolerance Policy with regard to them. Other than that, have a nice day. dunniteowl
Thanks for not locking dunnitowl, the last thing that I want this to get into was an anti-Atari discussion. The only way to provide a good argument is to clearly define your point and premises. Without that, we have nothing.
So let's keep this thread on-topic and replies short to keep it bumped up top where people will be able to see it. The only reason that I posted a link to the thread here is because no one visits Atari's forums unless it's a link from here....
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Aratham Darksight
Game Owner
 NWN
NWN: SoU
NWN: HotU
SW: KotOR PC
Jade Empire:SE
NWN 2
NWN 2: MotB
NWN 2: SoZ
Mass Effect PC
Joined: 13 Sep 2004
From: Hungary |
Posted: Wednesday, 04 October 2006 02:45PM |
Quote: Posted 10/04/06 14:31:00 (GMT) by Tal Rasha You don't actually believe that, now do you.
Why not? It's not like the problems with copy protection are obvious to everyone who haven't encountered them themselves and don't visit tech support forums or warez sites.
Legitimate users not being able to use their discs might happen more than is acceptable, but it's still far from the norm. |
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Juriel
Game Owner
 NWN
NWN: SoU
NWN: HotU
NWN 2
Joined: 14 Oct 2002 |
Posted: Wednesday, 04 October 2006 02:46PM |
Copy protection won't keep the game out of pirate hands for more than one minute, but will inconvenience legitimate buyers every single time they start the game...
Oh well. I just hope it'll have no issues with my DVD drive. And after a few days I will, once again, use a crack to play my bought game without issues.
Man... |
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Icasaracht
Game Owner
 Mass Effect PC
Joined: 19 Jun 2002 |
Posted: Wednesday, 04 October 2006 02:49PM |
I hate atari, who is with me? (hi dunniteowl)
It's true securom only inconveniences paying customers as does all digital media protection. Pirates are always one step ahead of the developers and publishers, there is a patch that removes bypasses the need to have a cd in the drive right now and it has been functioning for some time (now on v6 I believe.) |
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