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 Home  Forum Index Neverwinter Nights 2 NWN2: Builders - NWN2 Toolset Toolset Q&A Thread: Part 3
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Miserere
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NWN 2
Joined: 17 Jul 2002 |
 Posted: Friday, 20 October 2006 04:36PM |
Quote: Posted 10/16/06 17:28 (GMT) by Terror2001 Quote: Posted 10/13/06 02:03 (GMT) by ScreminMemes
Not really, in fact - it makes it better. The off limits area is there to create the illusion of seamlessness. All you need to to to make your areas seamless is copy one then move it to the side until the last two in-bounds rows from the original area are the first two out of bounds in the next area.
I've been looking for a way to copy sections of a map to create this seamless effect but have yet been unable to. I understand the copying of the map to a new map, but how do you select and move a group of tiles?
Don't try to copy sections of a map. Instead:
(1) Make a copy of the entire area (i.e. copy the area itself, not the terrain and stuff in it). Just select the area in the area list, right-click, and select copy.
(2) Identify the edge you want to carry over (let's say it's the North edge of the original area, so you want to preserve the *North* edge of the new area as well).
(3) Select and delete all objects that do not fall within the 4 tiles along the edge you are preserving (otherwise all those objects will collapse to the new edge when you do the next steps, which will screw up the areas you want to preserve). So in our example we delete all objects that are not within 4 tiles of the *North* edge of the new area.
(4) Use the Resize option (I think it's in the Edit menu, but I don't have the toolset in front of me right now) and reduce the size of the edge *opposite* the one you are preserving until you have only 6 tiles in width, total (4 of which will be off limit areas). The 2 off-limit areas from the other area will now be the walkable areas of the new area. In our example, we would remove most of the tiles on the *South* edge of the new area.
(5) Use the Resize option again to increase the size of the area back to what you want it to be, this time on the other edge. Now you have extended out the walkable area in the other direction and can build it up however you want. So, in our example we would add several tiles to the *North* edge. Et voila.
Think of the process as kind of inch-worming your way from area to area. You move to a new area (by making a copy), contract the area to eliminate the parts you are leaving behind, and then extending again in the direction you are moving. Does that make sense, or do I sound like I'm on crack?
Anyway, hope that helps. I've tried this and it works like a champ. Where this method falls apart is if you try to create four areas arranged in a square pattern, since the fourth area you make will only be able to "inherit" the edge of one of its two adjoining areas, not both. That's where you'd have to do some fudging.
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Tales of the Pendragon (Defunct)Edited By Miserere on 10/20/06 16:46 | 
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Sid Nitzerglobin
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Jade Empire
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Mass Effect
Mass Effect PC
Joined: 21 Jun 2002
From: fROMOHIO |
Posted: Friday, 20 October 2006 09:42PM |
OK, sorry if this was peviously answered and I missed it but after a few hours of clicking in toolset and reading this 33 page FAQ and the toolset docs, I still can't seem to figure out how to copy the built in scripts for editing.
Anyone figured this out yet?
Failing that, anyone know how to simultaneously view a built in scripts and a new script so I can copy/paste or just manually recreate the code in a new script?
Thanks in advance.
Edit: LOL, nevermind. 5 minutes after posting I managed to get the built in script to open in a new tab by clicking the Open button from script select pop up in the Script section of the placable's Properties page.Edited By Sid Nitzerglobin on 10/20/06 21:57 | |
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DS Divine
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Jade Empire:SE
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Mass Effect PC
Joined: 21 Oct 2006 |
Posted: Saturday, 21 October 2006 11:41AM |
Hello in there.
I have three questions for now.
1)Please, take a look at following links (screenshots): Click Here Click Here
and tell me, how do I get rid of that blue "fog" ( its not "Fog" really, but I dont know how to describe it) that make everything dissapear whenever I zoom out. ( Im sorry, my english isn't that great and I can't explain better- I hope screenies help.
2) Its 'bout painting waters. Check this out:
Click Here The picture is big, possibly take some time to load )
See that grass in the middle of waterpool? I dont need it, really. Why can't I cover everything with water? How do I get rid of That?
And 3) Why doesn't music always play? Yeah, it play sometimes. But sometimes not.
The ambient sounds doesnt play at all.
Thanks  Edited By DS Divine on 10/21/06 11:50 | |
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bloodsong
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NWN: SoU
NWN: HotU
NWN 2
Joined: 31 Dec 2002 |
Posted: Saturday, 21 October 2006 03:43PM |
DIVINE:
1: go to View: Options: Graphics.
look for an entry under FarPlane. change it from 100 to something larger like 500 or 1000.
2: you need to lower the ground under the area where you want the water to go, before you try to put water in it. dig the moat first, then fill it ;)
Q: can somebody make a definitive chart of placeables vs tiles vs baking in regard to being walkable/unwalkable? i know that tree objects dont block things unless you cut them out, and changing placeables to environment things does make them unwalkable... i think. you know what i mean? i just tried converting a placeable to an environment object, and i can't even tell the difference... :/ | |
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RG_Baldur
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NWN 2
Joined: 22 Oct 2006 |
Posted: Sunday, 22 October 2006 04:46PM | |
Here is my question: I downloaded some prefab stuff to look at / tear apart to help me understand the toolset. Inside the download, instead of .erf's (which I expected) I found .pfb's. What are they and how do I use them? imported like an .erf or something else? | |
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Urlord
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NWN 2
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Joined: 02 Jul 2002
From: Douglasville, GA USA |
Posted: Sunday, 22 October 2006 05:45PM |
FIRST QUESTION
In NWN, triggers could be made taller to account for rises in the terrain. When I place a trigger in NWN2, the trigger seems to be flat and it disappears under the hills.
My question is: Does the Trigger extend above and below the terrain so that it doesn't matter, or is will the trigger not be activated where it disappears below the terrain?
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SECOND QUESTION
Is there an easy way to turn an instance of an object already placed into a new Module Blueprint?
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Eee-gad, I hope not? That's where I keep all my stuff."Edited By Urlord on 10/22/06 17:47 | |
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EW Desolator
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Joined: 21 Aug 2005 |
Posted: Monday, 23 October 2006 02:29AM | |
How do you place objects on top of other objects? Like put a plate on a table or something. | |
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knightsubzero
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Posted: Monday, 23 October 2006 04:11AM |
desolater the "s" key is your friend, s = stackable, highlight table, press s, highlight plate, press s, move plate to table.
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RG_Baldur
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Joined: 22 Oct 2006 |
Posted: Monday, 23 October 2006 05:20AM |
Quote: Posted 10/22/06 16:46 (GMT) by RG_Baldur
Here is my question: I downloaded some prefab stuff to look at / tear apart to help me understand the toolset. Inside the download, instead of .erf's (which I expected) I found .pfb's. What are they and how do I use them? imported like an .erf or something else?
Does this mean no one on the forums knows the answer to my questions? 
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knightsubzero
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Posted: Monday, 23 October 2006 09:22AM |
they are the prefabs, you put them in your overide folder.
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RG_Baldur
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Joined: 22 Oct 2006 |
Posted: Tuesday, 24 October 2006 12:28AM |
Well, thank you very much Knightsubzero. I though .pfb might be for Prefab, just wasn't sure what to do with them. In NWN 1 they all came in haks or erf's, so they had thier own folders..lol. Thnaks again.
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knightsubzero
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Posted: Tuesday, 24 October 2006 03:35AM |
no probs, it is a little wierd huh
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Gryndell
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Joined: 21 Jun 2002 |
Posted: Tuesday, 24 October 2006 04:00AM |
Q: I was goofing around with lighting effects outside and laid down a windowbeam (Placed Effects, Window Beam 1). It casts a neat little window effect on the ground. But when I tried to rotate it, the little diamond indicator spun, but the window pattern didn't rotate. Is it supposed to? It would look odd for me to place a building at an angle but have all the window patterns pointing north!
I opened its property window, and even though the Orientation line is grayed out, I can still rotate the diamond with my mouse, and the Orientation values change when I re-open it. But again, the pattern doesn't rotate.Edited By Gryndell on 10/24/06 04:22 | |
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RG_Baldur
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Joined: 22 Oct 2006 |
Posted: Tuesday, 24 October 2006 04:40AM | |
Odd. I have been able to add, rotate and delete the window beams. Let me see if I can recreate the problem with Beam 1. I'll get back to you if I can solve the problem | |
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Gryndell
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NWN: HotU
SW: KotOR PC
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Joined: 21 Jun 2002 |
Posted: Tuesday, 24 October 2006 04:42AM |
Thank you. In case it matters, I'm running toolset 1.0.780.0 with a Radeon 9800 Pro. Not very high on the supported cards list, but it does run.
I'm also running a fairly old set of drivers (I don't like changing what isn't broken). Maybe I should look into updating them.Edited By Gryndell on 10/24/06 04:50 | |
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