Juason
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 Posted: Thursday, 07 December 2006 05:46AM |
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In NWN1 NPC heartbeats would still fire (albeit with less frequency) if no players were in the current area. In NWN2 I am noticing (I think) that NPCs do not fire heartbeats at all when a PC isn't in the area. What can I do to force an NPC to have a heartbeat always? |
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Abby_
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Posted: Thursday, 07 December 2006 05:54AM |
Don't quote me, but think there is an option in either the creature properties or area properties that is something to the effect of "suspend if no players in area"
EDIT:
Is on the creature properties, it's called "Disable AI while hidden". Try setting that to false and see if that works.
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Juason
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Posted: Thursday, 07 December 2006 05:59AM |
Oh I see. "Hidden", meaning not in the current area. Gotchya  Man, some of this stuff would have been SO easy to include in the Worldbuilder guide this time around. But no.. we had to get lame interviews instead :sigh:
Thank you for the help. |
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Juason
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Posted: Thursday, 07 December 2006 06:15AM |
Actually, maybe I spoke too soon. Changing that to FALSE didn't seem to fix the lack of heartbeats upon area transitioning. Has anyone tested this in game yet?
I basically have an NPC leave the area using the TravelToObject function, and have SendMessageToPC(GetFirstPC(), "Beep..") embedded in the heartbeat function.
While in the same area I see Beeps, once they go out that door the beeps stop and the NPC stands on the other side doing nothing until I walk through. |
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Abby_
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Posted: Thursday, 07 December 2006 06:26AM |
hrm... sorry, I don't know then. That was my best guess.
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Juason
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Posted: Thursday, 07 December 2006 06:29AM |
Oh no problem... I'm just concerned that the developers have some other, hidden, undocumented way of doing this... It has to be possible though.
I can't see why a developer would come post telling me to use a function to have an NPC area transition to another area, or to use a broken switch to allow WalkWayPoints to work across areas, if NPCs cannot actually function in other areas |
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Abby_
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Posted: Thursday, 07 December 2006 12:45PM |
I think the way points to walk to another area are suppose to be used for stuff like having a NPC "Exit stage left"....
like "Yea, thanks for unlocking my door, here is your quest XP... I must go in and sleep now [exits area]"
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ScarfaceDM
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Posted: Thursday, 07 December 2006 12:58PM |
Simple fix, instead of a normal heartbeat from the heartbeat event, use a pseudo heartbeat from the creature and initialize it OnSpawn for example:
Problem solved.
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Juason
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Posted: Thursday, 07 December 2006 03:18PM |
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That just might work. Thank you. But you'd think a way would exist to make NPCs fire heartbeats when no PCs are around.. you know just like NWN1? |
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Juason
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Posted: Thursday, 07 December 2006 04:00PM |
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People had talked about script-firing issues in other threads, particularly with Door-close scripts not firing when PCs weren't present. Was that script based on an area heartbeat that also gets turned off when no PCs are around by chance? |
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ScarfaceDM
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Posted: Thursday, 07 December 2006 04:50PM |
you mean the script I just posted? It's just a pseudo function that re-runs itself every x amount of time regardless of whos around, it should work with no probs at all, as for door close scripts not firing, I wouldn't use the heartbeat event to close a doro anyway, id have a delayed close in the OnOpen event of the door.
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Juason
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Posted: Thursday, 07 December 2006 05:02PM |
Oh I wasn't referring to your script Scarface - I think someone already posted it worked perfectly
I was just curious if Area Heartbeats also stop working as soon as a PC leaves the area. Moreso for my own edification than anything. |
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fluffyamoeba
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Posted: Thursday, 07 December 2006 11:51PM |
Are you using a custom HB function or have you put your PC messaging code at the end of nw_c2_default1 ?
If you are doing the second, then that's your problem. This returns out of the script if there are no PCs in the area:
You would be better using either the new spawn script variable (look in nw_c2_default7) or a user defined event.
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Juason
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Posted: Friday, 08 December 2006 03:52AM |
I was/am using the new SpawnScript variable already
I'm finding no heartbeat fires at all, regardless of what it should be doing, once an NPC leaves the current area. |
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Juason
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Posted: Friday, 08 December 2006 04:00AM |
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If you are doing the second, then that's your problem. This returns out of the script if there are no PCs in the area:
Ok I see that now, why does that return if no PCs are in the area? Does the AI level automatically go to Low when no PCs are around? |
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