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Author ***SPOILERS*** My Ending
gtg797h
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Joined: 24 Nov 2006
Posted: Tuesday, 16 October 2007 01:56AM
So I just beat the Mask campaign, and I've got to say my ending was pretty evil. How many endings are there? Mine included a horribly failed influence with Safiya (I killed her mother) and she turned into a real terror among the lands. I can only assume my influence with Kaelyn was failed, she continued the crusade and got betrayed by Rammaq. And a successful influence with One of Many so he was bound to me and devoured all my conquered enemies. How many endings are there? I have to assume 2 for each ally you bring with you to the end, I guess next play thru i'll keep Gann and Okku at my side, i'll play a divine or arcane caster and leave out the extra. What else can effect your ending besides influence? What other major choices?
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George Ziets
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Posted: Tuesday, 16 October 2007 03:07AM
There's 4 possible endings for the PC.

For Safiya, there's 3 main endings (romance, non-romance positive, and non-romance negative - sounds like you got the negative one because you killed her mom ). There's actually some other possibilities for her, as well, depending upon the PC's ending.

Kaelyn's outcome can be happier if you ensure that a certain demilich never gets the chance to betray her.

All the companions have at least 2 possible endings, depending upon your Influence, and sometimes upon other choices you've made in the game (for example, saving Anya should unlock an additional non-romance ending for Gann).
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Snoebelbloep
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Posted: Tuesday, 16 October 2007 11:06PM
I just finished MotB myself, and although I hear I didn't get the best possible ending because I apparently missed the final mask fragment (never realized you could drink the water from that pool ), I'm quite happy with the one I got, guarding Kelemvor's city with Safiya for all eternity. I'm a little disappointed that I couldn't tear down the wall of the faithless (natural order be damned! It's unfair!), but I guess going up against a god (uhm, a live one, anyway) was more than a little dumb anyway.

I've heard what the optimal ending entails, and I think the one I got was much a more fitting end to my lawful good ranger. I'm slightly annoyed that an entire ending of the game was closed off to me just because I missed a tiny detail like that in spite of practically playing the game like a vaccuum cleaner, but on the other hand, that ending WAS a little over-happy, and being a big fan of the DX: Invisible War method (no happy ending, just several different variants of grey), the dilemma I got at the end because I couldn't simply remove the curse forever was much more interesting than just going with the optimal ending would've been. I guess what annoys me is that I missed some major content because of a tiny oversight, but I'll live, I think

Shame about Kaelyn though, she was one of my favourite characters (come to think of it they were ALL among my favourite characters, good job on that, Obsidian!).

End happy-rant.
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control7
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Posted: Tuesday, 16 October 2007 11:12PM
In nearly all the posts about the endings I've read I've found out people are really pissed about not being able to tear down the wall. Am I the only one who didn't even continue the crusade and sided with Araman at the city of Judgement?
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Posted: Tuesday, 16 October 2007 11:16PM
I think my ending worked out the best.

- Safiya: Jaeger Bane married her, they are happy, all my old friends came to the wedding, the pair become a bunch of planar travellers and adventurers for years

- Gann: Never left Bane's company, became one of his best friends, had many adventures

- Kaelyn: Successful Crusader

Presumably I come back to Crossroad Keep. I thought it was good how Aldanon, Tarmas, Neeshka, Khelgar, Bevil and friends came to the wedding too

And.... well, I'm guessing poor Okku is still standing outside the Mulsantir gate.
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Snoebelbloep
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Posted: Wednesday, 17 October 2007 09:27AM
control7: Nah I know at least one other person who opted to defend the wall. Mind you I am not pissed, I am "a little disappointed". Also it seems like a kind of depressing morale: You can't change the world, so you might as well give up?
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Posted: Wednesday, 17 October 2007 09:54AM
Quote: Posted 10/17/07 09:27 (GMT) by Snoebelbloep

Also it seems like a kind of depressing morale: You can't change the world, so you might as well give up?

The moral of my ending seemed to be "come back when you have like 30 more levels noob"
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Kinthalis ThornBlade
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Posted: Wednesday, 17 October 2007 10:56AM
Tearing down the wall definitely would have been nice, but also would have involved the cliche of mortals taking on gods. What's so special about being a god if it only takes a level 30 human to take one down?

My ending had me staying to guard the wall along side Safiya for all eternity. Kaelyn, perhaps not wanting to face me, failed to ignite another crusade against the wall, and was forced to hide from Kelemvor's assasins in the plane of shadow. A sad ending for her.

Gaan became a leading man at the veil for a while, then left abruptly one day to adventures unkown.

And of course tales of my heroic sacrifice became legend across the lands!
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control7
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Posted: Wednesday, 17 October 2007 11:00AM
Quote: Posted 10/17/07 09:27 (GMT) by Snoebelbloep

control7: Nah I know at least one other person who opted to defend the wall. Mind you I am not pissed, I am "a little disappointed". Also it seems like a kind of depressing morale: You can't change the world, so you might as well give up?

I didn't opt, so much, to defend the wall....more like I decided that the crusade wasn't my problem, I'm not Akachi, and I have no major stake in what happens with the wall, only that I come out with soul intact. And it seemed rather foolish to my character to even bother trying to challenge a god in his home turf, a fact some seemed to find out the hard way.

Of course this means Kaelyn turns on me, along with the solar, the dragon and the lich. But that was their mistake of course.
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Posted: Wednesday, 17 October 2007 11:48AM
I have also been graced with a happy ending with my bard (Safiya stays with him, Gann becomes his best friend and Okku travels with him for a whyle before returning to his barrow and defend his lands). Since I hated the angel companion, I always left her parked at the Veil. I never met One of many (or better, i killed him because he was an abomination). The companions were fantastic and I was really happy when I found out that Khelgar and Neeshka were still alive! Excellent andventure, a truly epic conclusion to the OC campaign (which I highly enjoyed too)
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SquirrelAssassin
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Posted: Wednesday, 17 October 2007 01:54PM
In mine Kelemvor was narrating (I guess that's the same for everyone)

Gann shared my adventures for a while until one day he got bored and left camp without warning or farewell, but isn't dead, so sayeth Kelemvor

Okku went back to his Barrow, but was rumored to appear with a spirit army when Thayans attacked, and he drove them away with not a drop of Rasheman blood spilled

Safiya was turned on by my ruthlessness and we went on to terrorize the planes

One of Many killed her out of jealousy or spite and I hunted him down and killed him as he pleaded for his life in Safiya's voice

Kaelyn became a beacon of hope for those in the Wall and she and her crusaders attacked many times and managed to free some souls now and then

I went on to worlds outside Kelemvor's influence and kicked arse and took names and no one ever heard from me again.. those who knew me scoffed at the idea I might have died. I'm actually working in an office building now... I should have just gone to the Wall

Edited By SquirrelAssassin on 10/17/07 13:58

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warhog4ever
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Posted: Saturday, 20 October 2007 10:41PM
You got to go back to Crossroad Keep?! I so wanted that to happen but I found no such possibility... how does that work?

For my part, I toyed with two endings. I really only have one complaint about the game, which is that trying to shift your alignment throughout the campaign is almost impossible. I checked my hunger, spared as many of my enemies as I could, and I still stayed Lawful Evil. =(

My endings essentially involved staying behind in Kelemvor's service or letting the curse roam on forever, which was an unfortunate price for my freedom. Despite all attempts to shift back to Neutral I apparently remained an evil terror. Oops.
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warhog4ever
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Posted: Sunday, 21 October 2007 12:20AM
Ah. I see. Cheated to toy with my alignment to get the non-evil ending.

I much prefer returning to Crossroad Keep than otherwise, though I wish I actually had a chance to converse with my former companions.
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Lumenadducere
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Posted: Sunday, 21 October 2007 01:06AM
I've been through the expansion with multiple characters, so I'll just list them:

Wizard/EK: Romanced Safiya but for some reason they didn't get married (bug?). Returned to Crossroad Keep with Khelgar, met up with Neeshka, and had a massive party there. Kaelyn was betrayed by Rammaq, Okku and Safiya followed for a bit and then went their separate ways.

Monk: Married Safiya, went to West Harbor, and it was unknown if he settled down or continued to travel. Kaelyn became a symbol of hope for the Wall, Gann was a best friend, Okku traveled with and then went home to slaughter a bunch of Thayans.

Paladin/Divine Champion: Betrayed the Crusade (his deity was Kelemvor), was told by Kelemvor that when his time came to die he would have an honored place in Kelemvor's realm (which really suited him, I think). Married Safiya, Gann and Okku had the same results as above.

On that note: even if Kaelyn isn't with you, it assumes that you've killed her - Kelemvor mentions that you've made enemies of the Menagerie due to the death of their sister. You might want to fix that in a later patch, Devs.

Now going through with my Warlock, Fighter/Weaponmaster, and Ranger.
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Kanten
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Posted: Wednesday, 24 October 2007 02:51PM
Safiya: Returned to the Academy, the soul of the Founder passed on to her, continues to seek Akachi.

Okku: Returned to the wild to continue to attempt to carry his oath. Faded into obscurity for the rest of his days.

Kaelyn: Stayed behind to raise an army against The Wall, betrayed by Rammaq, a mute for the remainder of her life.

Main: Reunited with Daeghun, returns to Crossroad Keep with Khelgar, disappointed having missed the chance to fight a god. They drink into the night with the company of Bevil and Aldanon.

Kinda dismal.
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