Vendalus
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 Posted: Sunday, 06 January 2008 08:49PM |
I've been considering how to implement charm spells for PRR for a while now, and I wanted to run my current thoughts by everyone to see what you all think.
In the NWN1 scripts, I had simple modified the charm spell code to add a PRR reaction adjustment. The big issue in NWN2 is that you can't target neutral NPCs with spells, meaning you can't actually cast the spell. My current thought is to create a conversation option with scripts that would check to see if you can cast the spell and then handle it through dialog.
Checking to see if the PC has a charm spell ready should be easy. When I get to items and scrolls however, that seems to require a bit more. As I understand it, I'd have to go through every item equipped and in the inventory of the PC speaker and check to see if it has a cast charm spell property.
My question is:
Is there anything I'm missing that would make this a lot easier? Is there a better way to do this? Thanks in advance.
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dirtywick
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Posted: Sunday, 06 January 2008 11:26PM |
You could create a loop to check all of the items in the inventory and every item slot for the item property for the various charm spells. That's about as easy as it'll get, I think.
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Vendalus
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Posted: Monday, 07 January 2008 01:11AM |
Yeah, I think you're right. I've got the basic charm person spell working. You get a "Cast a charm spell..." option in the dialog that then lets you choose the method you want. Then you could use a spell or a scroll or an item, etc. Just need duplicate the code for all the variations.
Then I'll start on items. I'll let you know how it goes. |
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Posted: Sunday, 13 January 2008 12:19AM |
Well, here is the guts of my item check so far:
You'll need to define oPC and also have ginc_debug included for it to compile.
It's not working though, because I think that trying to directly compare the two property objects doesn't fly. I can check GetItemHasItemProperty to see if the item can cast a spell, but I can't seem to determine what spell it can cast.
Any help would be much appreciated.Edited By Vendalus on 01/13/08 00:20 |
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dirtywick
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Posted: Sunday, 13 January 2008 01:01AM |
Only thing I can think of is changing the constants to the actual 2DA line number. I had a similar problem with a spell script where it wouldn't recognize constants but it would the 2DA line number references.
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Posted: Monday, 14 January 2008 01:27AM |
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Changing to the int value didn't seem to help. I'm digging into x2_inc_itemprop now to see if I can leverage those scripts. Mainly, IPGetItemHasProperty takes a property as a param, so that looks hopeful. Need to run for now, though. |
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Posted: Tuesday, 15 January 2008 11:19AM |
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you can modify charm spells to be casted to everyone,not only to enemy |
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Baragg
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Posted: Tuesday, 15 January 2008 02:24PM |
In the on_load of the moduel there is this.
#include "x2_inc_switches"
#include "x2_inc_restsys"
void main()
{
if (GetGameDifficulty() == GAME_DIFFICULTY_CORE_RULES || GetGameDifficulty() == GAME_DIFFICULTY_DIFFICULT)
{
// * Setting the switch below will enable a seperate Use Magic Device Skillcheck for
// * rogues when playing on Hardcore+ difficulty. This only applies to scrolls
SetModuleSwitch (MODULE_SWITCH_ ENABLE_UMD_SCROLLS, TRUE);
// ChazM: this doesn't appear to be used anywhere...
// * Activating the switch below will make AOE spells hurt neutral NPCS by default
// SetModuleSwitch (MODULE_SWITCH_AOE_HURT _NEUTRAL_NPCS, TRUE);
// ChazM: controls whether NPC can hurt each other with AOE's.
//SetModuleSwitch (MODULE_SWITCH_ENABLE _NPC_AOE_HURT_ALLIES, TRUE);
// ChazM: controls whether a PC party can hurt each other with AOE's.
SetModuleSwitch (MODULE_SWITCH_ENABLE _MULTI_HENCH_AOE_DAMAGE, TRUE);
}
If you can comment out the if(gamedifficulty) and the blocks it has, you could comment in the AOE_HURT_NPC and the allies also. I wish they would let me do this on SM. Hehe, but most players wouldn't like that. |
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Vendalus
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Posted: Wednesday, 16 January 2008 02:57AM |
Baragg, will that setting allow you to just hurt NPCs with aoe effects, as opposed to targeting them? The issue is actually that you can't target them.
I've tried changing the HostileSetting in the spells.2da to 0, which will allow you to target a neutral NPC, but this means you can't target hostile creatures.
DedoITA, can you speak a bit more on how you can allow the spell to be cast on both hostile and neutrals? |
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Vendalus
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Posted: Wednesday, 16 January 2008 04:34AM |
Well, as a quick update, I spent some more time playing with the spells.2da, but I still could not get a solution where you can target both hostiles and neutrals.
I did dig into x2_inc_itemprop, and I was able to catch the charm spell property on an item with IPGetItemHasProperty().
So later in the week, I might try to finish building out the conversation to cycle through the PC inventory and allow for up to 10 items as options for casting the spell. I have a plan where you will cycle through the inventory once when you say you want to cast the spell, and save all items with the property as objects on the player. Then presenting those options should be pretty easy.
I'd still like to side-step this whole issue by just allowing players to target both hostiles and neutrals, though. Any advice someone can give me on this would be greatly appreciated. |
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Baragg
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Posted: Wednesday, 16 January 2008 03:27PM |
From the lexicon:
Had to add some spaces to get it to go, that is why it looks funny. |
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Baragg
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Posted: Wednesday, 16 January 2008 03:30PM |
If you want a pc to be able to target an npc, you could set your npc to hostile. Just for a short period.
This is for a charmspell right? |
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Baragg
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Posted: Wednesday, 16 January 2008 03:32PM |
Quote: Posted 01/15/08 11:19 (GMT) by DedoITA
you can modify charm spells to be casted to everyone,not only to enemy
In the 2da? How so, sorry I dont 2da much. |
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DedoITA
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Posted: Wednesday, 16 January 2008 04:18PM |
Ok, probably my answer was a little bit criptyc 
My solution is to make charm actually "2" spells, selectable on the fly as the Protection from evil/good spells.
It's quite easy making it in spells.2da, one for using it against enemy, one for using it with neutral/friendly.
In this way you can charm neutral npc, and in conversation just check if they are charmed and make appear special conversation nodes.
Pretty elegant, i'd say
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Vendalus
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Posted: Friday, 18 January 2008 04:10AM |
Thanks! That's what I was looking for, actually. So from what I can tell:
1. Make two dupes for the spell down in the padding area.
2. Edit the initial version to have the 2da values of each dupe in the SubRadSpell1 and SubRadSpell2 columns.
3. Edit the initial version to have **** in the ImpactScript column so that nothing actually fires.
4. Replace all caster level values with **** on each of the new dupes of the spell.
5. Edit the name columns to be the initial name of the spell, plus "hostile" and "friendly" (respectively).
6. Change the second entry (friendly) so that the Hostile flag is 0.
Repeat for each variant.
Sounds right?
ps- Baragg, if you go into the data folder in your install directory, you'll see 2da.zip and/or 2da_x1.zip. Export it somewhere else on your machine and you'll see all the 2da files. You can edit them with xls. |
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